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As organisations begin to use GSIM, this discussion forum will be used to explore issues with the model or propose extensions to the model.

 

 

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Non Structured Dataset#6Non Structured Data SetThérèse LalorOPEN TOPICleaning towards removing object 
Modelling#14RelationshipsJenny LinnerudOPEN TOPICAction: All relationships need to be reviewed and made explicit before next releasePlace holder
#22AttributesThérèse LalorOPEN TOPICAction: All attributes need to be reviewed and made explicit before next releasePlace holder
Quality#17AQualityThérèse LalorOPEN TOPIC  
Reference Metadata#17CReference MetadataThérèse LalorOPEN TOPIC  
Process Output#19Add Process Output subtypeGareth McGuinnessOPEN TOPIC To be discussed on 27 August
Methodology#17BMethodologyThérèse LalorOPEN TOPIC To be discussed on 27 August
Data set#24Distinguishing between different types of datasetsJenny LinnerudOPEN TOPIC To be discussed on 27 August
Documentation#25GSIMv2 documentationThérèse LalorOPEN TOPIC  
Index/Index Entry#26Index/Index EntryThérèse LalorOPEN TOPIC To be discussed on 27 August
       
Methodology#3Design ContextJenny LinnerudWAITING (Waiting for Methodology discussion to happen before decision made)
Data Set#7

unit data

dimensional data

Thérèse LalorWAITING Alistair Hamilton
Node Sets#12Hierarchy in Classifications and codelistsHelen TooleWAITINGChris providing example of hierarchical codelist as exampleChris Nelson
Population#13Survey and Frame PopulationsJenny LinnerudWAITING ABS to provide improved definitionsAlistair Hamilton
Views of GSIM#15Creating views of GSIMGareth McGuinnessWAITING Waiting for input from CSPA
       
Population

#1

 

Add unit type object

Alistair Hamilton

 

DECIDED

A new object will be added called Unit Type

Action: Definition, relationships and attributed need to be drafted

 
#16Add relationship to unit typeHelen TooleDECIDEDAction: Relationship to Logical Record to be added 

Node Sets



#2

Code vs Code List

Category vs Category Set

Klas Blomqvist DECIDED

Provide clearer explanation of the differences

Code is kept in the model with better explanation

Action: Text needs to be drafted from examples in discussion forum

 

#8

LevelHelen TooleDECIDED

Change the diagrams to include Level in the next release.

Action: New diagrams to be created

 
#11Statistical Classification CardinalityHelen TooleDECIDED

Classification Scheme (Statistical Classification) has Mandatory Level

Action: Change the definition of (Statistical Classification) such that it must contain at least one Level.

(Statistical Classification) 1..* Level (Mandatory, Many)

 
#21Alignment with NeuchatelThérèse LalorDECIDED

Change according to proposal

Action:

Remove Classification Version from model

Remove Classification Variant from model

Change Classification to Classification Series

Change Classification Scheme to Statistical Classification

Revise relationships according to proposal

Add attributes according to proposal

Revise definitions

 
Business Service#4

Business Service

Dissemination Service

Thérèse LalorDECIDED

Dissemination Service to be a subtype of Business Service

Action: Text needs to be drafted and attributes aligned

 
Data Resource#5States of dataJenny LinnerudDECIDED

Information about how states of data "could be done" should go into the next version of the User Guide, rather than trying to fit into the model

Input to be given by countries using states of data may be done.

Action: Text needs to be drafted

 

Data Channel#9Data ChannelThérèse LalorDECIDED

Data Channel stays in model

Action: Review definition of Data Channel

 
Representation#10RepresentationThérèse LalorDECIDED

Change name of Representation to Presentation

Action: Name changed in documentation and model

 
Data Point#18Data PointHelen TooleDECIDED

Example in glossary to be fixed (Proposal 1)

Action: Fix Example

 
Assessment#20AssessmentGareth McGuinnessDECIDED

Definition to be improved

Action: Fix definition

 
Data Provider#23Data ProviderJenny LinnerudDECIDED

No change to model required. Although perhaps clarification in text would help future users?

Action: clarification in text would help future users?

 

Open Issues

Topics 40 Replies 206
Topic Author Replies Last Reply
 
 
As raised during the meeting, formally defining Dissemination Service as a subtype of Business
Thérèse Lalor 25 Feb 5 Alistair Hamilton 09 Apr
 
I think we discussed this in the past - the relationship between a population and an object
Alistair Hamilton 01 Feb 18 Dan Gillman 22 Nov
 
Option from Chris. It is the same as Option except that in option 1 Logical record and record
Thérèse Lalor 04 Oct 5 Thérèse Lalor 16 Nov
 
GSIM and Metadata Structures.docx Input from Chris attached. Extra work required to make
Thérèse Lalor 03 Jun 2 Thérèse Lalor 16 Nov
 
16/11: Deadline has passed for input regarding dissemination. No further changes to be made
Thérèse Lalor 04 Oct 5 Thérèse Lalor 16 Nov
 
David - The race/ethnicity example was based on the practical difficulty of writing an exhaustive
Helen Toole 20 May 14 Dan Gillman 05 Nov
 
From Tjalling Gelsema: “ For those interested, even after the verdict, please find below
Thérèse Lalor 19 Mar 14 Thérèse Lalor 01 Nov
Further info from Dick. We need to include this in our consideration as agreed above. GSIM
Dick Woensdregt 11 Sep 5 Thérèse Lalor 30 Oct
Discussion 29/10: To keep or not to keep them. This is a well understood in the implementation
Thérèse Lalor 04 Oct 2 Thérèse Lalor 28 Oct
 
Helen has a new picture drawn which is being tweaked.   Updated Quality Diagram.pptx Scenario
Thérèse Lalor 31 Jul 6 Thérèse Lalor 29 Oct
I am surprised nobody has voted for updating the GSIM Communication document. We have a lot
Thérèse Lalor 13 Aug 2 Gareth McGuinness 28 Oct
Further elaboration from CBS: GSIM Issue: Observation Unit is a structured collection In
Thérèse Lalor 04 Oct 5 Thérèse Lalor 28 Oct
The Reference Period is defined as an attribute of StatisticalProgramCycle, it is mentioned
Thérèse Lalor 31 Jul 1 Thérèse Lalor 28 Oct
 
Helen: I agree with Chris from a modelling perspective, but also from a more practical perspective.
Helen Toole 12 Sep 3 Arofan Gregory 17 Oct
CSPA makes a distinction between business function, business process and business service
Dick Woensdregt 11 Sep 4 Thérèse Lalor 04 Oct
I think it is fair to say that Instructions are a specialized form of statement. The reason
Helen Toole 05 Sep 5 Arofan Gregory 03 Oct
The problem with Instrument and InstrumentImplementation is that an instrument is something
Helen Toole 27 Sep 2 Dick Woensdregt 03 Oct
New Definition: The role given to a Represented Variable in the context of a Data Structure to
Jenny Linnerud 17 Sep 2 Jenny Linnerud 02 Oct
2/10 Discussion: Action: We are not making changes to the methodology for this version. We
Jenny Linnerud 19 Feb 8 Thérèse Lalor 02 Oct
 
Discussion 2/10:  Action: Remove and make small text explanation that we may need this in
Thérèse Lalor 07 Mar 17 Thérèse Lalor 02 Oct
start adding definitions that particularly need to be reviewed or that we have agreed need
Thérèse Lalor 02 Oct 0 -
 
Discussion 18/9: Are we ready to resolve this? Is this something for GSIM version after this
Jenny Linnerud 08 Aug 5 Thérèse Lalor 18 Sep
 
Neuchatel Group discussions: Index and Index Entry will renamed to Classification Index and
Thérèse Lalor 22 Aug 2 Thérèse Lalor 13 Sep
Discussion 5/9: GSIM is method agnostic. We should not tie it to any method. Methodology
Thérèse Lalor 31 Jul 2 Thérèse Lalor 05 Sep
Discussion 27/8: Agreed to remove subtypes of population and unit. How is GSIM going to
Jenny Linnerud 21 May 14 Thérèse Lalor 27 Aug

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